[danaris]

Sorry, my phrasing there was kind of poor: I didn't mean that he had made the overall AI situation worse, but rather that the AI he made was worse for the public than a hypothetical AI that was made with a deliberate eye to ethical or at least neutral behavior.

[pdonis]

Ah, ok. I certainly agree with that. My question would be whether it's even possible for we humans as we are now to make an AI with a deliberate eye to ethical behavior. Sam Altman clearly is not someone who can do that (nor is Elon Musk, for that matter). But I'm not sure I know of anyone who is.

[danaris]

I mean, there are plenty of people with the ethical chops to do so, and, I daresay, plenty who combine that with the technical chops.

What's lacking is the money & power.

Having/obtaining enough of those to be able to compete with the likes of OpenAI and Google is, unfortunately, nearly guaranteed to result in a deeply ethically compromised person at best.

[pdonis]

> there are plenty of people with the ethical chops to do so, and, I daresay, plenty who combine that with the technical chops.

Can you name some?

> What's lacking is the money & power.

How do you know money and power wouldn't make whoever you're thinking of just as corrupt as the people who have the money and power now?