[Reubend]

Props to them. That makes DeepSeek v4 Pro extremely cheap compared to others, even in the same category. Look at these prices per million outputs tokens:

DeepSeek V4 Pro: $0.87

Qwen 3.7 Max: $7.50

Grok 4.3: $2.50

GLM 1.5: $3.08

Opus 4.7: $25.00

GPT-5.5: $30.00

[Arcuru]

It's actually even cheaper when you look at the cache read costs. Those costs can dominate in agent workflows and DeepSeek's cost for cache reads is insanely low comparatively. At $.003626/M tokens, the cheapest other thing on your list is >$.2/M tokens. That's on the scale of 100x cheaper.

[freakynit]

Also, deepseek cache hit rates are pretty good. I use deepseek v4 flash model regularly for agentic tasks (more than 20 tool calls on average per run), and 70%+ of input tokens get served from cache.

The speed is absolutely bonkers too. I once misconfigured a mcp I was developing locally, and told it to use the tools provided by this mcp to get certain task done. It figured out that the mcp is misconfigured, and then automatically went ahead and started to fix the mcp, fixed it, and then started using it by passing raw jsonrpc messages using stdin/out, bypassing the harness integration (since it would have needed a restart).

It did all of this in under 30 seconds and made over 15 tool calls in all of this (yes, I use yolo mode in a container, so my agents have full access to everything in the container).

[gck1]

The next time someone says "stop crying about usage limits, they're losing money on your subscription ", I'm going to link to this comment.

Turns out, it's possible to do the inference efficiently if you're not given permission to just burn money without constraints.

[onlyrealcuzzo]

And they don't make the model worse once you have a subscription!

It doesn't matter how good Opus is if 2 months into your subscription they make it worse than GPT 3 to save money.

[cassianoleal]

DeepSeek don't have a subscription plan.

[niwinz]

OpenCode Go includes it. Pro and Flash

[cassianoleal]

OpenCode Go is not DeepSeek. They may host the model but they're run by an entirely different organisation.

I imagine when onlyrealcuzzo said "they don't make the model worse once you have a subscription", he didn't mean OpenCode Go, otherwise they would have probably said so.

[onlyrealcuzzo]

I meant whoever I'm getting DeepSeek from via Open Router...

[cassianoleal]

Right, but then whether the service degrades with a subscription or not is up to the service provider - not DeepSeek themselves. In this case, it would make more sense to say "OpenCode Go don't degrade the quality of the DeepSeek offering with the subscription", etc.

I'm aware I'm slightly nitpicking but your message more or less implied you could get a DeepSeek subscription.

[marksully]

*GLM 5.1