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by belinder 31 days ago
Anyone using deepseek through a gateway (not sure if right term) so there's no data retention? At work we're going through a few hundred million tokens a day in our app (using anthropic models), and we're looking for something significantly cheaper
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Use it through Azure! Azure hosts DeepseekV4-Pro and DeepseekV4-Flash themselves. We're using it and it works great.

You don't get the discount that Deepseek is providing, but it's still a cheap model (v4-pro is cheaper than sonnet)

opencode allegedly has contractual no-data-retention policies with their providers.

I recall reading about that in an issue or in their Discord server.

But I would contact them formally to verify that.

They claim it on their OpenCode Zen page.

What's frustrating is that they give no information on who the provider(s) are!

Yep, I use Cortecs - https://cortecs.ai/ "Europe's LLM ROUTER"
Using Cortecs.ai too in combination with DS4Pro and Mistral Viba as harness, but unfortunately DS4 on Cortecs is the opposite of cheap. So I just use it for privacy centric tasks.
If DS4flash works for your case, then https://tensorix.ai/pricing is offering at pretty much the same rates as deepseek themselves, with EU data residency and guarantees.
That is not correct. I talked about Pro. Cortecs.ai is routing to Tensorix btw.

DS$ Pro on Tensorix. That is not exactly cheap. Input:$1.75 / 1M tokens Output:$3.50 / 1M tokens

Yep, that's why I said, if DS4Flash works for you.

From what I've read online, people have reported that DS4Flash-xHigh works even better than DS4Pro-xHigh .. so, you can try. No harm in trying :)

Deepinfra, Take a look at providers, there is special mark for Data Retention for each provider: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-pro
I have been using deepseek via deepinfra, afaik they provide no data retention. Im probably going to deploy the full model on their infra instead of paying credits at some point, so far the experience has been pretty good
But do these prices apply if you use a third party go-between? I would expect they then charge their own prices?
In that scenario others host the model, not DeepSeek themselves, so they indeed charge their own prices.