[vkou]

95% of Alberta is unceded First Nations land. It is not a valid country without it - without the consent of the relevant First Nations, a separated Alberta would be a few municipalities enveloped by... Canada.

This is not a concern in Quebec, because the overwhelming majority of it is ceded land.

If ducks had two wheels, they'd be bicycles, and if there was anything in common between the two provinces, you might have a point.

[cf100clunk]

As far as I know, First Nations lands in Alberta are indeed ''ceded'' under Treaties 6, 7, and 8 with the Crown. British Columbia is a province with a huge proportion of unceded land, but not Alberta.

[vkou]

The treaties with the crown require the crown consult with them before adjusting them. This means that Albertan secession can't happen without their consent, as it would by definition, completely and unilaterally adjust the terms of those treaties.

The treaties were made in perpetuity, and if you are going to not hold up the crown's end of the promises, the FN's side - giving the crown and Alberta governance over the land - needs to be reverted as well.

Contracts require both sides to adhere to them.

[cf100clunk]

> 95% of Alberta is unceded First Nations land

That is wrong. You were probably thinking of British Columbia, where no such grand Treaties were ever enacted.

[8note]

hang on, your previous claim was that its unceded land, with no treaty contract at all - which is it?

do you actually know what the terms are, and who has what responsibility to them?

[jpadkins]

So because Quebec ancestors killed all the people who opposed the conquest of that land, it's okay for Quebec to secede? But because another set of Canadians didn't kill off all the natives that still claimed Alberta's land, they can't secede legally? Is that the logic?

[HDThoreaun]

Whats wrong with that? You want to consult some graves and see what they think?

[cf100clunk]

Wow, I'm not sure where you're going with that. Read up on the ''Brandy Parlit'' debates and you'll see that genocide of indigenous people was never at play in early Quebec. The relationship between European colonists in New France/Lower Canada/Quebec and First Nations has always been frought, but not genocidal.

[8note]

quebec is on treaty land.

you might want to do some amount of research before accusing the french ...

who by far out of the colonial powers had the best relationship with indigenous people in north america, and whos relationships created a new culture blending french and indigenous cultures together into the Metis,

... of genocide.

[canadiantim]

Pretty sure Quebec would have to break apart in order to separate too