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by Curosinono 26 days ago
I do agree that shit behavour should be met with direct reaction but lets be honest here the time and effort of doing this is 5 minutes.

A proper society should educate people about things they can't get rid of anymore.

And no you can't just put teenager, which have not fully formed brains yet, into prison for fake nudity

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> the time and effort of doing this is 5 minutes.

Yet the consequences for the victims may last a lifetime and be both intrinsic and extrinsic. Sexually forcing themselves on a drunk colleague at a party or taking their dad’s gun and shooting up their classmates also only takes a few minutes, but can scar a community for years.

I’m not going to opine on what the punishment should be, though it seems clear there should be one and more than a slap on the wrist. The community where this took place (i.e. those who are living through it) should probably have a say in it. There should also probably be an investigation of how this came to pass, i.e. has this kid always been an asshole with a pattern of behaviour or have they recently been indoctrinated by manosphere bullshit and should get counselling to understand their actions and that women are people too and deserving of respect?

The community should never have a say in this. A independent judge should do this to make sure its fair.

And there is a huge difference between clarifying with people what fake AI is vs. real nudity.

You can't just put a kid into prison because they copy pasted a head from someone onto some body.

> The community should never have a say in this.

Of course they should. I’m not saying they should get to unilaterally decide, but you should listen to the people who are affected. Don’t just ignore the people, the law is meant to serve them. Elected officials exist to represent the will of the constituents.

For example, let’s say you do something which is against the law but only affects the community you’re in and no one else, and the community not only doesn’t mind what you did, they are thankful. Should you be punished?

> A independent judge should do this to make sure its fair.

What do you think a judge does? They aren’t robots who only interpret a book, they listen to the people in a case and make a decision in context and within the framework of the law.

Furthermore, “independent judge” does in no way guarantee “fair”. Decades of interminably biased decisions aren’t going to stop now (definitely not with the current state of the US and its supreme court).

> You can't just put a kid into prison

Again, I’m not going to opine on what the punishment should be. I haven’t suggested a punishment, don’t argue as if I did.

> because they copy pasted a head from someone onto some body.

You’re misrepresenting what happened. The kid didn’t go in there with scissors and hastily pasted a head into a picture in a magazine. We know the state of generative AI, we can presume it was a competent fake.

I agree here. People are too quick to levy adult punishment and morality against children.

Teach them compassion and empathy. Teach them why their actions hurt.

There are a lot more things we punish people for that take less than 5 minutes.
Thats not what i meant.

My point was that this type of technology is so easy to access and to do, its not easy to just make it illegal.

Take a picture out of the year book, copy it onto a body, done

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