[jeremyarussell]

Is it just me that's sick and tired of all these extreme all or nothing causes? It's either no patents or leave it the same, it's either capitalism is all bad or all good, it's either we are saving the planet or burning it as we go.

You know we can just change certain laws in the patent system to get it fixed right?

You understand that the idea of someone being able to sale their hard work for a living isn't evil right?

Or that maybe just making a true concerted effort of a smaller carbon footprint is enough? We don't need to ban all gas lines, or coal and replace it all with solar wind farms.

Consider this, we are fighting other people's ideals with equally extreme ideals and then wonder why the world doesn't see our brilliance. They think all of torrenting technology is evil because it allows for easier "unauthorized" access of someone else's creative content. It's a tool people. Capitalism isn't bad, overly greedy people are bad, and they just happen to love capitalism.

It's called moderation.

[bhickey]

I was pleased to see a recent PETA campaign advocating for the use of controlled atmosphere killing of poultry. Rather than their typical sensationalist approach (ex. http://www.peta.org/features/would-you-eat-a-chickens-period...) that appeal only to the faithful. They made economic arguments:

Typical slaughterhouse practices are stressful for workers and lead to damaged product.

Improving worker conditions decreases employee turn over and boosts yield.

It's probably wishful thinking to take this as a signal they're transitioning to become a serious advocacy organization.

[krisc]

No capitalism and go environment is definitely the overarching theme in this campaign. And I do believe that the prevailing capitalism is damaging to our earth. But they also make a point in advocating the support of local business to stimulate the local economy.

[illuminate]

"It's called moderation."

If moderation was the natural state of things, we wouldn't have to argue for it.

[jeremyarussell]

Which is why I argue for it. Humans do have the ability to override their natural way of thinking, until that day is no longer true I guess I'll keep arguing for the case of moderation.