[Ekaros]

Fair use is the balance between creators and those that in someway use the content. Somehow it has become excuse not to compensate the creators in anyway. To me AI training part really looks something that should be treated separate and thus give the creators compensation when their works are used.

Now how much and should it be based on revenue from output is open discussion. And it might also be that there is no fair model to pay them. Which means that well too bad for LLMs...

[underlipton]

The nature of how LLMs work makes it impossible to connect a derivative work to its source data in the training. However, the weights couldn't exist without that training data - the works of the creators were used during training - and the entity making money off the use of that training data is primarily the LLM platform owners. So they should pay.

We are trying to avoid another situation where "resource wealth" goes uncompensated, producers remain poor while processors, marketers, and merchants reap all the benefit. Unless your aim is something else, in which case you should state it.