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by ori_b 21 days ago
This seems like a non-sequitur. The entire point of AI is that it's able to generalize and perform at or above human level. Let me know the next time your camera is able to simulate conceptualizing something.

Or is your argument that AI is permanently doomed to not work?
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necovek 20 days ago
It obviously does not follow since it precedes AI in "automating ... art" by 150 years.

What happened to art since?

We got artistic photography on top of paintings as well. It did not become widespread right away as people were mostly enamored by the simplicity of getting a realistic image first. But after that died away, people made art out of photography too.

Yes, those who did landscapes or portraits for hire were affected financially, but we ended up with more art, not less.

If I need to spell it out: genAI for image generation will also become an avenue for real artistic expression, as some pioneers are demonstrating, even if image generation is democratized, there will be a difference between art and non-art. It will also not kill conventional art either.

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ori_b 20 days ago
If I need to spell it out for you: no artistic 'tool' has yet attempted to automate the thought that goes into art. Would you consider someone an artist if all they did was hire someone off fiverr?
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necovek 20 days ago
Sure it has: automatic exposition and focus, HDR image blending... These used to require more thought and are now done for you. You still sometime override it, and an artist more often than a non-artist.

A tool is let to make a set of choices, but there is some control: you can prompt an AI to draw a white animal, a white bird or white swan — if you get a white horse with wings and a beak on any of the latter ones, we could say that AI is putting more thought, but at the moment, it wouldn't and we'd call it broken.

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ori_b 19 days ago
???

This is an insane take. Once again, does hiring someone on fiverr to draw for me make me an artist?

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necovek 18 days ago
Depends on the set-up. Does you setting the stage, costumes and directing the photoshoot done by someone from fiverr with good camera and knowing how to use it not make you one?
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