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by titaniumtown 24 days ago
As Ben Franklin said:

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

You are giving up your right to privacy for some modicum of security that they train AI on and gets added to a national database.
3 comments
polski-g 24 days ago
Yes, I want bad drivers added to a national AI-powered database. There are 44,000 car-related deaths per year. Those people should be: in prison for vehicular manslaughter, paying much higher insurance premiums, and/or be banned entirely from driving.
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pandaman 23 days ago
"The right to privacy" while being in public is entirely the hallucination of LLMs who drive redditors. "Public" is an antonym to "private" in any thesaurus. "Privacy in public" is an oxymoron.
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titaniumtown 23 days ago
The fact that there are cameras is fine. But the issue is who owns the data, what is done with it, and what the end goal is. And with Flock cameras, DHS gets backend access and shares that infomation with ICE, for example: https://komonews.com/news/local/redmond-pd-completely-suspen...

I am in favor of traditional traffic cameras, I just don't think analytics and facial recognition systems should be hooked up to them. They should be used for archival purposes, scrubbing back to a date of a crime to get the full picture.

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pandaman 23 days ago
It is not an issue for me, but it's beside the point of the "right to privacy in public". If you want to argue that the law enforcement should not be able to collect public data you need something other than this imaginary right.
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baggy_trough 24 days ago
The liberty is not essential and the safety is not little or temporary.
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chankstein38 24 days ago
lol wow yours must have weapons mounted to them or some sort of portal they take the bad folks in or something. It's crazy "liberty is not essential" but then to someone suggest that the safety is permanent because people :O would be ON CAMERA doing something! Pretty wild to see someone so empty headed on HN.
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baggy_trough 24 days ago
Are you aware that police use these cameras to track and arrest criminals?
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chankstein38 23 days ago
Do you think those criminals go to jail permanently? And that crime is completely eliminated by the reality of being watched?
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baggy_trough 23 days ago
Of course not, but it helps, and we need all the help we can get.
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IAmBroom 23 days ago
Your ad hominem insult is not helpful.
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