[shmel]

Do we still need an IDE though? I am very happy with Claude Code last 6 months. I can totally see why Google got rid of everything, but the dialog box. Perhaps it was stupid to do that without warning, but ultimately this is the future.

[RHSeeger]

I find this comment mind-boggling; in an honest confusion, not insulting way. I use Claude Code (and desktop) on a daily basis; but I can't even imagine doing anything complex without being able to see the code.

[20k]

There seems two kinds of developers

1. Developers that create the mess and don't have to deal with the consequences

2. Developers that fix the mess and have to deal with the consequences

I've noticed that the former category is significantly more pro AI than the latter

[seanw444]

Can we stop calling it AI and making it sound cooler than it really is: a lossily-compressed text lookup DB?

[shmel]

I admit I look at the code less and less now. But when I do want that I just ask Claude to show me the code verbatim. It is almost always faster than click in IDE because it greps with insane speed. After all, when it's fully AI-generated it's sort of someone else's codebase from my perspective, I end up grepping through it the same way it does.

Gradually I moved to asking questions about the code instead, something like "if X and Y, will Z still hold? did we not forget to check this?" I realized that this is what I am doing in my head when looking at the code. And Claude understands well enough what I mean and checks it.

What I found mind-blowing though is that surprisingly often it says me something like "while looking this up for you I think found a potential bug, would you like me to quickly check it?" or "I noticed that actually when X and Y true, Z holds indeed, but I believe there is a rare situation (...) when we don't want Z because it makes zero sense, what do you think?"

[krzyk]

Maybe the GP was more about: "Why have agent in IDE?" kind of comment, which I understand. Having a small window into agent is annoying for me. I prefer to have coding agent in CLI and do my editing in IDE (and seeing the code changes there, I still see no point in CLI agents providing me with diffs, I can see those using e.g. git diff or IDE).

[mvc]

"show me the diff in emacs"

and claude opens up a new emacs frame (aka "window" if you're not an emacs doc writer) with a magit diff buffer of whatever we've been working on. This happens instantly because the emacs server is already running since startup and this is just popping up a little client window

[slopinthebag]

> I can't even imagine doing anything complex without being able to see the code

I mean, it's totally possible they just aren't doing anything complex.

That being said, for even the simplest stuff I do I benefit from looking at the code, making changes etc.