[Jtarii]

>Those of us who create for creation's sake need no other reason. I create because I want to, not because I want to use it to gain capital.

How do you create without capital? To make a film you need a camera crew, a sound crew, set designers, caterers, a director, scriptwriters. A world without professional creatives is so much poorer than the world we already have. Why would you give it up just for some vague notion of ideological purity.

[epicide]

You absolutely do not need a camera crew, a sound crew, set designers, and caterers to make a film. You need a director and scriptwriters, but those can be the same person. Do many film sets have all those? Absolutely. But one can still make a film without them. Some of the best films ever created were mostly the product of one person with a budget less than half that of the average car.

Would you be able to create big-budget movies without said big budget? Of course not. I obviously like some of those too, but who's to say that the larger budget made them better? It feels like you're conflating art creation with art business, but they are not the same thing.

[Jtarii]

I suppose you are okay with all animated films being impossible to create then.

>I obviously like some of those too, but who's to say that the larger budget made them better?

If you legitimately believe something like 2001: A Space Odyssey would be as good with a budget of $10,000 then that just seems delusional.

The world you want is one in which the only people who can create things are people who are wealthy by other means, there is no pathway for a talented but poor kid to go from making home movies to working on films without IP laws. They must abandon their dreams and go work in the coal mines or whatever. It is dystopian.

I want the most amount of people possible to be able to work as professional creatives because it enriches my life and the lives of everyone in the country I live in.

[8note]

> I suppose you are okay with all animated films being impossible to create then.

i quite enjoyed watching some animations made on a $10 budget over winter. www.giraffest.ca

that and everything the NFB puts together.

Art is worth putting government money into

[Jtarii]

>i quite enjoyed watching some animations made on a $10 budget over winter. www.giraffest.ca

Sure, if you want to discount the thousands of hours (and dollars) that they spent to get good enough to make those things. People are willing to spent time and money getting good at animation because there is a career pathway for them.

Also there is a fundamental difference between a short experimental art film and a 90+ minute narrative feature film.

[deaton]

Exactly, it is the difference between creating as a hobby and creating as a profession. The latter is only possible when there are IP protections in place to ensure compensation.