[Findecanor]

What a naive and simplistic view.

People want to be recognised for their contributions to society. People want to be treated fairly. Most scientific articles, as well as all text on the free web is already free information. It used to be difficult to search, categorise and summarise that information. There exist AI tools for that — and that is the good AI.

What also exists now are automated plagiarism and mash-up tools: that can take someone's article, change the words and churn out a new article that people can put their name on. There are scumbags that sell services for exactly that. And there are big tech firms that are operating in a very grey area.

Aaron Schwartz had broken a paywall. He did not anonymise the article authors.

You, and AI-bros like you remind me of one the people behind Pirate Bay when I argued with him back in the '90s, who used that same "information wants to be free" to justify software piracy.

[gitaarik]

I think what's important to make a good model is the quality of the information. Doesn't matter who made it, for what purpose, or how much money they made from it or are still making from it. It's just training data ultimately, and if it's useful data, we should incorporate it into the model, and if it's not, not.

The way people use the model is a different story; you can use it to do useful things, or you can use it to do harmful things. We should obviously have some regulation around that. That needs to be developed still I guess.

[rigonkulous]

There is far more free information than non-free information, and it has always been so - or else we wouldn't be here in the first place.

>Aaron Schwartz had broken a paywall. He did not anonymise the article authors.

AI bro's are doing this now, every second of the day.

And, without software piracy, we simply wouldn't have the technology we have today. Knowledge-gatekeeping profit-seekers would very much like for most of us to ignore this fact: there is far more free information in the world than non-free information, and it must be so, well into the future, if we are to survive as a species.

It doesn't matter what authority believes they have the right to gatekeep information. It will always escape their grip. Some of us are ideologically aligned with this mechanism, promote it, and ensure it happens. Thank FNORD.