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by briandw 26 days ago
This is an adversarial process. Unions exist to fight employers. Unions spend about 23 billion a year in total. Only spending 1.5B to defend against 23B looks like a bargain.
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A way to exit the adversarial process is by ending the separation between owners and workers, through things like worker cooperatives, employee ownership, and workplace democracy.
yeah but how much are employers spending to lobby, etc, and is that not a significant force-multiplier on their 1.5B direct spend against unions?
They have the lawmakers on their side.
Who does? The unions definitely have lawmakers on their side.
AFAIK The USA is one of the most anti-union non-authoritarian countries for a very long time. In other countries people receive a lot more support and protections for the right to organize
Unions often exert more power at the state and local level. In certain states, they can consistently wield a lot of power.

Unions in the US tend to be much more aggressive than they are in other places, which has in part led to their decline. Americans historically have tended to hate unions at the times when they’re powerful, and love them at times when they’re weak. In other words, people like the idea of unions in theory, but hate them in practice.

Hating something in practice doesn't always mean it's bad for you. See veggies and exercise as an example.
Urban unions in the US often control local and state politics.
Who do you think has more power in the US today, oligarchs and corporations or workers and their unions?
what’s your evidence for that?

It that’s true, why is union membership declining? why did Trump et al gut the NLRB? why do starbucks unionized employees STILL not have a contract years after forming a union?

Unions are good and we need more of them.

It’s clearly a more effectively spent 1.5B too, seeing the majority of comments on this post.
> 23 billion

source pls