[nikeee]

When I'm encountering some WoT like that, I'd like to have a button like "view source", but for "view prompt".

Most ai generated messages or docs are unnecessarily verbose and just reading the prompt would suffice. I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text.

It just wastes my time. And probably only makes it look like it took more effort than it actually did (it may be the exact opposite).

[Aurornis]

> I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text.

Simple: It looks like you did more work.

Before everyone had ChatGPT, a long document meant that someone sat at their computer and invested more effort than someone rattling off a list of partially formed bullet points. In the process of writing the doc they usually refined the idea.

Now anyone can dump the bullet points into ChatGPT and get and expand them into a document which gives the illusion of being well thought out. They can now occupy the same space as everyone who was doing a lot of work in the past, but without having to do the work.

[recursive]

That's only going to work until people start absorb the fact that you can now generate unlimited amounts of grammatical text for free. Shouldn't be long now.

[zephen]

Yeah, like yesterday, maybe?

[Terr_]

Next, the recipient of the wall-of-text throws it into another LLM to "summarize" it to bullet-points, adding another hop of the game of telephone as it mutates what was already a fake artifact of thinking that was never done. *sigh*

[filoeleven]

And the money keeps on rolling upward...

[Terr_]

To cynically summarize a disturbing portion of LLM business-models:

1. Find companies which require or reward employees for generating bullshit, fluff, or unreliable signals for actual work that isn't measured well.

2. Offer those employees convenient BS-as-a-Service.

3. Convince the corporation to subsidize the new bullshit-production method as a business expense.

I hope this results in the overloaded collapse of the underlying bullshit mechanics... but I don't particularly expect it.

[imhoguy]

4. Wait for AI token price skyrocket.

5. Approach them to buy your convenient anti-BS-as-a-Service optimizer.

Rinse, repeat.

[SchemaLoad]

But now I can use AI to summarise the wall of text back in to the original bullet points.

[bfivyvysj]

You even get a couple of new ones for free.

[gofreddygo]

I very much dislike this behavior, personally dont do this and want it stopped.

people that I like to be nice to have done this to me. I dont have a good response that wont trigger them.

They chose to do this cz its easy. I now have to choose : read that garbage and make sense and ask questions or reject it asking for your opinions not claude's.

Former leads to more walls of text. Latter makes me come across as not-nice and get broad stroke painted as an AI hater (which I'm not). Not many where I work will voice any of their discontent about anything AI. Its the hotness.

The irony of that article having an AI smell is not lost on me

[grey-area]

> ...probably only makes it look like it took more effort than it actually did

I think you've hit on why people would do this in a work environment. It's a low-effort way of looking like they're engaged at work and know what they're talking about.

[nikeee]

I suspect that, too. But to me, it signals the exact opposite.

[grey-area]

I know, I find it quite rude but luckily don’t work with people doing this.

[digital_voodoo]

> I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text

Probably people who have never wanted to put the required thinking effort in a simple, structured response to a question, and now think that "a lot of words" magically solves that skill issue.

[SoftTalker]

I would have written a shorter letter, but I didn't have the time...

[readthenotes1]

While Blaise Pascal, he of triangle and foundations of evil, may have indeed written something like that--though probably in 1600s French--it is almost certain that he did have the time. he just so not want to use it to edit his letter to be shorter.

The question before is now is now is whether the letter contains any quotable quotes that have survived 400 years other than his critique of style.

[nzealand]

We intuitively think large documents show significant thought.

I don't just mean the readers.

The generators of slop often think this is useful.

Things have changed.

Our intuition has not.

[fusslo]

"WoT"

hmm.. Wheel of Time? never got into those books personally

[ceejayoz]

Wall of Text.

[deaton]

Both being infamously long

[stuxnet79]

Wheel of Time is still some of the finest fantasy you will ever read. I'm personally tired of the digs at the last few books that Robert Jordan wrote before passing the baton to Brandon Sanderson.

[a1o]

It is too bad that neither Unhinged or Unglued had a proper Wall of Text card.

[fusslo]

Thanks!

[mcphage]

Just, pull your braid and smooth your skirt for a few times, and you'll get into the spirit of them.

[fragmede]

Wide open Throttle. Aka puttin the pedal to the metal, or twisting the throttle to the max on a bike, or pressing the lever as far is it will go on a jetski/quad.

[noobermin]

>I don't really get why some people seem to think that it's somehow better to have their bullet point prompt as a huge text.

Because they want to mislead you.

[fmbb]

I just want a ”report to HR” button. Someone is actively inhibiting their coworkers’ ability to work.

[harvey9]

HR will send you an ai-written reply

[SchemaLoad]

We are in hell

[consp]

Which layer? Since I think there are many more to go getting only worse.

[tintor]

HR isn’t there to protect or help or serve employees.

[karmakaze]

I wish the copy button for a response included the prompt (unless it's code). So many times I'm reading a response that starts running assuming the context of the prompt and I'm left wondering what it's about for the first half.

[jtbayly]

Except often the prompt is just the previous comment. In the example, the prompt would be "Should we use Redis or Memcached?"

In that case, there is nothing beneficial about the prompt, but the answer could be boiled down to a useful recommendation (from an AI, not a person).

[nikeee]

In that case I still want to see exactly this prompt. Then I know that the person didn't even think about my question thoug I asked _them_ for their opinion and I could have asked ChatGPT myself (and already probably have).

[yummypaint]

There is something about the asymmetry of effort that is particularly galling. If a person couldn't be bothered to write something, then I can't be bothered to read it.

If someone contributes a software component, they are responsible for it whether they developed it properly or slop coded. The difference is that I will refuse to look at the slop, much less debug it or help with troubleshooting.

People who blindly copy paste from agents are completely replaceable, and should be at the top of the list when layoff season hits. They drag the whole org down.

[Balgair]

I mean, you can just point your LLM at the wall of text and ask it to dream up with the prompt that made that. Or ask it to summarize into a TLDR.