[simgt]

Yes, but you're missing the point, I'm not debating that. Renewables aren't free, we should care about consumption just as much as production, and we don't know (yet) how to sustain the current consumption with renewables only, that includes being able to manufacture renewables.

[michaelbuckbee]

That's fair and fwiw something I'm in firm agreement with you, but also just not what I took from your comment.