[bonsai_spool]

> There is no such thing.

There really is! I've been in three unions, every place I worked. The first and third one existed beforehand, while I helped start the second.

A union is a group of people—and like any group, your influence is what you make it to be.

[kortilla]

You were in charge of all of the union decisions in all 3? That’s good for you but not representative nor possible for everyone joining a union.

[bonsai_spool]

Not in charge, I didn’t say that. But I voted in all, while I did have a bigger role in the second one

[asdfasgasdgasdg]

Did the union do exactly what you wished it to do in all cases? I.e. your perspective carried every single vote? That is the claim I was disputing. For the vast majority of union workers, this will not be the case. Even if it was true for you, it's not true for most.

[bonsai_spool]

Well the things I voted for passed because we did a lot of community-building before votes.

The better question is whether, when management does something, is that thing always in my interest. Obviously that is not the case. The union helps when management's actions are counter to that of the majority of workers.