[altmanaltman]

This is maybe good as a reference but its much better to just understand the basic shapes and you can play any scale from memory based on where you start the pattern on the fretboard. This seems a bit too intimidating compared to the tab pdf i used over a decade ago

[aleshh]

Agree, this is very much about where I am and not for beginners. But I think it helps learn the one “big pattern” when you see where the different scale degrees fit into it in each mode?

[altmanaltman]

No I mean even as someone who knows music theory and scales, this just seems to be too much info compared to a quick reference (basically UI seems to be a too cluttered shouldve been the feedback that i gave). I have been playing for over a decade now and mostly remember scales by muscle memory and ear.

I don't play anything other than guitar so maybe this helps in terms of if you want to learn overall music theory i guess.

[aleshh]

Yeah for the scales, one thing I've been thinking about is, instead of the individual "position" diagrams, which I agree don't really add that much, adding the ability to mark off part of the "entire fretboard" view with some sort of 4 or 5-fret box to play around with positions.

Do you think that would help? Something else?

[altmanaltman]

Yeah could be a good idea. The way I figured it in my head is that those patterns are basically two ways in guitar right:

1. You have the pattern on the same string and can understand it by half or full steps forward. So if you play the G major scale on the lower e string, you have to start from a g note and make that pattern over the string to stay in key. And the same happens with every other string.

2. This creates the box patterns we see when in reality its the same pattern with different starting points on different strings.

I memorized both the box patterns for quick muscle memory reference and the overall steps so if i want, i could recreate the box patterns from the original formula of the scale.

Furthermore, you can derive the box patterns for the different modes by just transposing the pattern across the board, im not very sure how it works in theory but basically if you play lets C maj scale on a different key, depending on the key you would basically be playing one of the modes of that key.

I guess this is going on a ramble but yeah a visualization of the fretboard could be super useful imo

[alok-g]

Looks nice and powerful, but absolutely not for beginners (in that sense, the Show HN title looks overpromising).