[ElProlactin]

I'm not talking about static websites. I'm talking about tech-savvy non-engineers who have been able to build fully-functional dynamic websites (with user registration, dashboards, integrations with third-party services, etc.) using AI.

I think way too many engineers underestimate the ability of tech-savvy non-engineers to use AI to build quite sophisticated applications today.

Would these scale to millions of users? Are they totally secure? Surely no. But if we're being honest, most freelancers and agencies haven't been producing highly-scalable, highly-secure work product either.

[utopiah]

> dynamic websites (with user registration, dashboards, integrations with third-party services, etc.)

What do you think a CMS is?

[ElProlactin]

I'm not trying to get into a semantic argument. By one definition, almost any web application can be considered a CMS.

I'll reiterate my point: tech-savvy non-engineers are using AI to build the kind of dynamic web applications that many engineers don't want to believe can be built by non-engineers using AI.

One marketer I know built a sales-related application for a niche industry with Claude Code and and has been able to attract a handful of paying subscribers in just a few months.

I'm sure an experienced US or Europe-based freelance developer would have charged tens of thousands of dollars to build something similar, and an "agency/shop" double that. And I'm not sure anything they would have built would have been significantly "better".

[utopiah]

I'll reiterate my point too then: yes, and that's not new. There are always engineers selling to tech-savvy non-engineers tools transforming a service based on expertise to a product.

[ElProlactin]

If you think what AI is enabling, and how it's actually being used by tech-savvy non-engineers, is "not new", carry on.

The AI "hype" is the perfect example of how people see what they want to see, on both sides.

[LtWorf]

It's so funny to read these things. Thanks to AI people can do so many things.

I mean they could do them also in the 90s with microsoft access and a bit of clicking and copy pasting. But now it costs 10000x more so it's better.

[utopiah]

Right? It's like suddenly people discovered that tools can embody expertise. That's literally what we've been doing for ... our entire existence as a species.