[signatoremo]

I thought "If you're not paying for the product, you are the product" is the most accepted wisdom on HN? At least when it comes to services from FB or Google. But if that comes from China they are the "good guys"?

[CamperBob2]

Good luck "productizing" a model running on the GPU in my basement with no Internet access. I wouldn't use them via a cloud provider, though.

[master-lincoln]

ever heard of product placements?

[CamperBob2]

Not from an open-weight LLM, I haven't. In fact, even the paid models are product-agnostic to a fault when I'm looking for something specific.