[sjsdaiuasgdia]

The president is using the DoJ to represent him in a civil appeal.

The president is creating a slush fund to pay off people who acted violently on his behalf.

The president has declared himself and his family immune from IRS investigation indefinitely.

The president is selling pardons.

The president is running influence schemes in the form of crypto sales and ballroom "donations".

The president is at a minimum enabling the people who are playing the markets (traditional and these new prediction atrocities) in advance of his on again / off again announcements about Iran, tariffs, etc. It's not out of the question that he approves of the activity and/or receives benefits himself.

The president uses mob tactics. Tariffs and DoJ threats are used to run protection rackets. Play along, pay up, and you can make your problems go away. For a bit. They'll be back later and they'll want more.

We are drowning in corruption.

[threethirtytwo]

Yeah so is every other country on the face of the earth. Lawless is Somalia. The US is normal.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

Got it, you don't value the rule of law. We are not the same, you and I.

[threethirtytwo]

I value it. But I value it practically and NOT delusionally in the sense that I understand that even though there is law, there will always be people who break the law.

Then when I take this non-delusional perspective and apply it to the US I understand that the US and every country on the face of the earth has a degree of corruption.

Then I do another realistic comparison about the DEGREE of corruption... and we find that the US is relatively NOT lawless when compared with MANY countries.

Also Elon is not a psychopath. But you and many on this thread are delusional.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

> there will always be people who break the law.

I find this phrasing choice interesting.

Of course there will always be people who break the law. There are always people who are going to attempt to do things they're not supposed to do for a variety of reasons.

Rule of law is about consistent application of the law. Laws that aren't consistently applied are just words on paper.

It seems to me that what you actually intended to say is "there will always be people who break the law and get away with it due to their wealth and status."

And yes, there will probably always be some degree of that too. But in a society that claims to follow the rule of law, the goal should always be to minimize the inconsistent application of the law. Part of that is challenging these events when we see them. Like the extreme corruption of the Trump administration versus every president that came before, including his own first term.

Treating an increase of corruption as inevitable is not, in my opinion, valuing the rule of law. It's at best a half-hearted "whatcha gonna do?" shrug-off.

[threethirtytwo]

Bro what I'm saying is you're wrong. The US is Not lawless and musk is NOT a psychopath. That's ALL.

[sjsdaiuasgdia]

And I'm saying you have no principled stance on the rule of law.