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by leptons 23 days ago
Mangione was a one-off, and a lot of people understand why he may have done what he did. Just wait until the American version of the French Revolution happens. If AI keeps stealing all the jobs, it will come sooner rather than later.
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ThrowawayR2 23 days ago
> "...French Revolution..."

Well, let's see:

- Most of the nobility escaped the French Revolution unharmed. By the way, wealth is a lot portable for today's magnates than it was for the French nobility deriving their income from their land holdings.

- Some of those who went to the block were nobles but most were ordinary people.

- The leader of the revolution, Robespierre, was himself executed in the infighting after the French Revolution, a very neat own goal. Bonus fact: his time in power was called the Reign Of Terror.

- The First Republic lasted only 10 years before Napoleon Bonaparte took the throne.

In a turbulent time, always seek to be led by those with a proper understanding of revolutions and their context. Generally, those who romanticize the French Revolution don't pass that test.

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leptons 22 days ago
Well, let's see:

I don't give a shit. When half of the middle class of America is unemployed, it's going to look very different than the French Revolution, whatever might happen.

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ch4s3 23 days ago
> and a lot of people understand why he may have done what he did.

He didn't understand why he did what he did.

> just wait until the American version of the French Revolution happens

We should all be trying to actively prevent that. The French Revolution was a complete failure and mostly succeeded in killing poor people and launching Napoleon's wars.

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leptons 22 days ago
>He didn't understand why he did what he did.

That doesn't matter, and I don't think your comment makes any difference. The fact is that a lot of people understand why he (may have) did what he did.

>We should all be trying to actively prevent that. The French Revolution was a complete failure and mostly succeeded in killing poor people and launching Napoleon's wars.

The same or worse will happen if it happens here. But when half of middle class jobs are just gone, you don't leave the people with many alternatives but violence.

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q931 22 days ago
> The French Revolution was a complete failure and mostly succeeded in killing poor people and launching Napoleon's wars

And spreading the early iterations of the liberal democracy y’all love so much.

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quickthrowman 23 days ago
Revolutions usually are bad. The Who puts it succinctly in Won’t Get Fooled Again

“Meet the new boss, same as the old boss”

Best case scenario is a new set of elites that end up doing the same shit as the last group, see Russia from 1918 to the present for an example.

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leptons 23 days ago
The Who is your evidence? Lol. The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people. It needed to happen. And centuries later, the French still don't accept bullshit, they will protest and riot when their protections are diminished in any way. America does protesy and riot too, though not to the same extent, but that will only get worse as things get bad.

Russia is not a good example either, their society has always been a clusterfuck, and probably always will be as long as there are people willing to throw other people put of windows so someone can stay ahead or in power.

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quickthrowman 23 days ago
> The Who is your evidence? Lol. The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people.

Many people have made comments that are similar in nature, the line from that song is the pithiest example I could think of to express the idea that replacing terrible leaders usually leads to more terrible leaders.

Spending decades fighting wars across Europe under Napoleon was good? I wonder how the troops that invaded Russia feel about the French Revolution lol

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leptons 22 days ago
Maybe you should visit France today. I'd rather live there than the shithole America is becoming (and has been for a while).
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ch4s3 23 days ago
> The French Revolition turned out pretty well for the French people.

What? Napoleon marched them off to war "spending 30,000 lives per month". They didn't get a proper Republic until 1870 and turned into miserable colonial overlords. Moreover the 3rd Republic;s foreign policy helped cause WWI.

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happytoexplain 23 days ago
Yes, they are usually bad.

That's not really a compelling argument against them, considering why they happen. It's like saying "war is bad". I mean, yes.

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