[JBorrow]

I just can't get behind this perspective, perhaps because I am a 'bad prompter', simply due to the lack of capability from current models. I end up rejecting them, asking them to implement again, they spew out tons of crap code instead of a 10 line fix, and on, and on.

Note that I'm not saying the agents are useless. They certainly write a lot of code and sometimes it is good. But I don't think you can get away without touching code yourself simply because at some level it is often the most concise way to get your idea across. I find it best to implement a core set of changes by-hand, and then ask the system to e.g. replicate them to other dependencies. I genuinely don't understand how anyone can work on a system with any complexity, and get the results they actually want, without touching code.

[doug_durham]

There seems to be a split. There are a substantial group of people like yourself who don't get what they want from LLMs. There are folks like me who get excellent idiomatic code almost every time. Both experiences are real and should be respected. I'm hoping that future investigations will find out why that is the case.