[grokx]

Yes, I stopped reading here:

> $12 on the front. Whole-network compromise on the back.

Too bad since the topic on its own seems very interesting.

[holistio]

English is not my native language but I consider myself a fairly advanced speaker - I hold a C2 level language certificate, lived in London, etc.

These are exactly the kinds of sentences that would have gotten us outstanding grades as students of the language.

I used to be proud of sentences like the latter in the above quote. I can't fathom how learning languages will change in the coming years.

[deaux]

> These are exactly the kinds of sentences that would have gotten us outstanding grades as students of the language.

You're abusing "us" here. There are billions of ESL learners, and the group you're part of who receive outstanding grades for that kind of sentence makes up a tiny percentage. The overwhelming majority would not.

[AshamedCaptain]

> These are exactly the kinds of sentences that would have gotten us outstanding grades as students of the language.

Not at all? They are not even full sentences...

I get that you might like the style, but there is no need for hyperbole.

[holistio]

I don't _like_ them. It's just perplexing that these are the kinds of phrases our teachers would have praised us for and now they're red flags.

They annoy me just as much.

[Retr0id]

Sentences with that structure might be praised but semantically it is nonsense.

Edit: except for prescriptivists who hate sentence fragments