[somelamer567]

In the fictional universe of William Gibson's Sprawl trilogy, it is legal and normal for defenders to go kinetic on cyberattackers. How long until it is simply easier for governments and big business in the countries victimised by these criminal groups, to find the path of least resistance and go after them personally?

[thrownthatway]

We can’t even prevent shop lifting.

[somelamer567]

Shoplifting isn't a national security matter.

[mminer237]

Most malware isn't either, especially with Node.

[thrownthatway]

It’s an issue affecting the nation.

[sitkack]

Compared to what?

[thrownthatway]

Are you ok?

Compared to calling in air support on cyber criminals.

How’s your reading comprehension coming along?

[sitkack]

wtf does shop lifting have to do with the conversation and why would it take priority vs anything else ? how is that an argument

don't attack people like this on this forum or you will get banned

[thrownthatway]

We can’t even prevent shoplifting, what expectation should there be that we’d be capable of mounting any sort of offence / defence against malware outfits.

I dunno, some people just have no sense of humour.

> or you will get banned

Oh yeah, run and tell the teacher. Dibberdobber.

Tell me, did you grow up in a fatherless home?

[sitkack]

Dibberdobber, I was with you up until you trotted this one out. Civility is dead on the internet, and you need to get your burns from someone other than Ned Flanders.

[LtWorf]

What they do is already illegal. The problem is finding out who they are and where they live to go and arrest them.

[thrownthatway]

I’m not convinced.

My understanding is that the problem is more that calling in the heavy artillery for what amounts to an annoyance, and maybe some financial harm, is generally considered impolite, even among nations that have conflicting worldviews.

[LtWorf]

You are allowed to have a conflicting world-view than USA as long as you have nukes, or, turns out, control a strait.

[thrownthatway]

It’s one thing to have a conflicting world view.

It’s another thing to have the entire Iranian parliament broadcast chanting “death to America”.

I’m not even American.

I don’t even agree with half the stuff Trump says or does, but I’m onboard with at least 20% of it, and that’s infinitely better than the last bunch of clowns.

[LtWorf]

If I were to bomb a school near you, you'd hold no grudge?

[thrownthatway]

Come now.

If that school was being used as cover for a military operation by Islamic extremist who recently shot up a music festival I was at, capturing some of the females and raping them then shooting out their eyes and vaginas.

Enough of the false equivocation.

My coffee was a little two hot this morning FUCKING JEWS!

<eye roll>

[abhisek]

Attackers are just having fun due to abysmal state of npm and some of the insecure design choices by GitHub and GitHub Actions. Every attack gives them credentials which in turn used to stage more attacks.

[cyanydeez]

perfect capitalism writ technology

[thrownthatway]

You making a good point.

Socialism or our right communism would probably fix this.

But only as a second order effect of fucking everything.

3.5 to 6 million Ukrainians died in the Holodomor.

None of them really had any issues with technology. Not so much because they didn’t have any, but more so because they were dead.

[mycall]

When you have AI models finding vulnerabilities by themselves in a for-loop, it isn't long before there is no human to go kinetic on.