[jwr]

I have my own benchmark: a photo of filament boxes in my drawer. The task is to list (inventory) the filaments. It's not an easy task: the letters are small, the boxes are in various orientations, the labels have lots of writing on them, etc.

This is what qwen produces (basically perfect):

Fiberlogy (Blue Boxes - Left Side)

ASA Black: 750 g (0.75 kg)

Easy PLA Graphite: 850 g (0.85 kg)

Ref Easy PLA Gray: 850 g (0.85 kg)

Ref Easy PLA White: 850 g (0.85 kg)

Ref Easy PLA Inox: 850 g (0.85 kg)

Bambu Lab (Brown Boxes - Right Side)

ASA White: 750 g (0.75 kg)

PLA-CF (Burgundy Red): 1,000 g (1 kg)

PAHT-CF (Black): 500 g (0.5 kg)

PET-CF (Black): 500 g (0.5 kg)

PETG-CF (Black): 1,000 g (1 kg)

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And this is gemma-4-26b-a4b (basically useless):

### *Fiberlogy Filaments*

All Fiberlogy items listed below share these common specifications: Made in Poland, $1.75\text{mm}$ Diameter, $0.75\text{kg}$ Weight, and Print Temperature of $200-230^{\circ}\text{C}$.

* *PLA Black* (Barcode: 5903281997986)

* *Easy PLA Graphite* (Barcode: 5903281994057)

* *Ref Easy PLA Grey*

* *Ref Easy PLA White* (Barcode: 5903281994386)

* *Ref Easy PLA True...* (Text is cut off)

**

### *Bambu Lab Filaments*

All Bambu Lab items listed below share these common specifications: Made in China, Removable Spool (Do Not Remove).

* *PLA-CF (Carbon Fiber Reinforced)*

    \*   Color: Burgundy Red
    \*   Diameter: $1.75 \pm 0.02\text{mm}$
    \*   Weight: $1.0\text{kg}$
    \*   Suggested Drying Conditions: $45^{\circ}\text{C}$ for $6-12$ hours

* *PAHT-CF (High Temperature Polyamide with Carbon Fiber)*

    \*   Color: Black
    \*   Diameter: $1.75 \pm 0.02\text{mm}$
    \*   Weight: $0.5\text{kg}$
    \*   Suggested Drying Conditions: $80^{\circ}\text{C}$ for $6-12$ hours

* *PETG-CF (Carbon Fiber Reinforced)*

    \*   Color: Black
    \*   Diameter: $1.75 \pm 0.02\text{mm}$
    \*   Weight: $1.0\text{kg}$

[argee]

Thanks. Did you set the image min/max tokens for Gemma4 to 1120 for this? This might not be a fair comparison without that, to the differences in architecture.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KoboldAI/comments/1sjnjic/imagemin_...

https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/15626

I think 1120 vs 280 tokens is a big difference, and you were perhaps using the latter value?

[jwr]

I did not, and I had no idea such a setting even existed. This could definitely change things. However, I don't see a way to set this in LM Studio, which is what I currently use to run models.

[argee]

Seems like you can't set it, for now. There's an issue for it: https://github.com/lmstudio-ai/lmstudio-bug-tracker/issues/1...

[benterix]

Thanks, that's very useful. I find people's small individual tests more important than the usual benchmarks that tend to be gamed by every single lab.