[apsurd]

it can be easily dismissed because "anyone can use the tool that costs $20" makes no meaningful sense.

this was always true in fact $20 is more than the free it costs for notepad++

it's a flippant statement. Go down the line of any tool; it's cost has basically nothing to do with skill difference to operate it. See basically everything. There's levels.

[IshKebab]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. If anyone really can vibe code then programming salaries are pretty much guaranteed to come down. The critical question is whether it really is true that anyone can do it, or if it still requires rare skill.

[apsurd]

are you a programmer? it 100% requires skill. AI or not.

i'm trying to say there's levels to this. if you don't agree then you don't agree. but i can buy commodity tools for any skill and that doesn't make me professional grade at that skill.

[IshKebab]

Yes I am. The vibe coding I've tried didn't work very well so I agree that still required my skill. But I also don't have access to the latest models and supposedly they're a lot better (see this article for example!).

So is it possible for non-programmers to vibe code if they have the latest models? If not now, what about in a few years?

AI is clearly a different class of tool to something like a welder.