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by Crunchified 30 days ago
This doesn't turn your phone into a ham transceiver at all. It turns your phone into a transceiver controller. Given that a cell phone is a transceiver, this headline is rather disappointing clickbait.
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Arguably, that's still a viable thing.

I've used a few handheld transcievers and they tend towards clunky user interfaces-- tiny, fiddly displays, highly modal keys, and basically needing to memorize the manual to use it.

Even worse-- there's not a strong correlation between the quality of the RF unit and the user-interface. The Yaesu FT-60 is a reliable, high-quality radio, with all the user friendliness of a live porcupine.

But with a 6-inch pocketable touchscreen you could solve most of the UI problems, and focus on the radio problems.

Keeping the division also gives you flexibility-- you could design a 25-watt tabletop unit, or modules for different bands, that shared the same basic control software and UI

Agree.

We need a compact short wave transceiver device actually.

QRP is the keyword you may be looking for. 9W, battery powered, SDR shortwave transceivers. There are inexpensive and expensive versions.
The antenna is the most critical part in this system. The transceiver is the second part, as to me at least.
Baofeng is 20 dollars? How much cheaper and compact do you need?

And I know, I know, Baofengs are notorious for going over the allowed noise limits… but still…

Baofeng's are not shortwave radios afaik
yes. it's a good choice for light use in UHF/VHF scenarios even communicating to satellites if you have a Yagi antenna.
Baofengs also have terrible receive filtering. It is perfectly possible to hear no stations because you are being overloaded by something on another frequency. I tried my first SOTA activation with a Boafeng. A transmitter on another hill meant I received nothing, although stains could hear me. By a Yaesu, still cheap
Yaesu FTW
yeap if you utilize "moneiability".
Is this prevented by physics or cost or just no one has the motivation?
Compact HF/shortwave radios with transmit capability exist, but they're pretty expensive and are generally definitely portable but not quite handheld. The biggest user of such equipment is the military, so a lot of the tech is engineered for that with civilian/amateur use as an afterthought. ICOM, Yaesu, and Xiegu are probably the best known makers, and you're looking at ~$1000 as table stakes for a modern one, though there are some slightly cheaper options.

Handheld CB radios do exist and are cheap, but I've never really used them.

There are a number of compact shortwave (radio amateurs prefer the term "high frequency" or HF, in contrast to VHF, UHF) transceivers. The impracticality is from the size of an efficient antenna.

I have personally made voice (single-sideband or SSB, which is analog like AM without wasting energy transmitting a carrier or redundant sideband) contacts with a 5 watt portable (Elecraft KX2) between countries in Europe, using a meter-long whip antenna and a trailing counterpoise wire.

These radios are incredibly complex weak-signal equipment, and that is reflected in the price.

That said, it is fun. Using morse code to do the same is even more fun.

I would never rely on this for off-the-grid communication, though.

A compact CB transceiver would be fun.
Fun, but short range. A quarter wave CB antenna is about 2.7 meters long. Without that, you're making more heat than radio.
wspr is known to work at 7mhz band with just cloth hanger as antenna. i think its totally possible to use headphones as shitty longwave antenna too
Someone already pointed out how the WSPR anecdotes fail for CB. The longwave reception argument is fallacy as well. There, you receive powerful signals with a poor, receive-only antenna; the typical asymmetric model of commercial broadcast radio (and cellular, for that matter.) With CB, both sides are low power. Legally, that is. And neither antenna is on a huge tower.

Several handheld CB radios exist, with little loaded whip antennas. You can go buy one. You'll see. They work for talking between two tractors in a field or whatnot. Past that, not so much. Today, you're better off with license free UHF handhelds for that use case.

Wspr is very optimised for weak signals, though. You wouldn't actually hear anything but noise.
jt8 would work. designed for ultra low db reception. We are talking here -20 dbm and chattable
There's the trusdx or the QMX.
I don't see it as clickbait since the realities of the Android ecosystem is a shared context.

Most people know that just about every Android phone has a restricted hardware design, not an expandable one.

So, "turn your phone into X" is bound to automatically evoke images of another device that plugs into the phone via common connectors like USB or the audio jack and an app on the phone to control that device. That's what the phrase means to most people in the context of Android.

"Turn your phone into a ham radio transceiver controller" is neither needed nor entirely accurate, because then people will assume it can control _any_ ham radio transceiver.

The article is chiefly about a radio circuit you can "build", plus some controller software that happens to run on an Android phone. Meanwhile the headline is 100% focused on describing something that your phone can be made to do (which you have admitted that it can't).

The two don't add up, and your apologetic analysis doesn't convince me otherwise. It's still clickbait. An Android cell phone has radio guts, and that headline is just gutless.

It's not "apologetic" and it wasn't meant to convince you but to refute your pointless pedantic nitpicking for other readers.
"Turn your phone into a nuclear reactor (by plugging it into a wall outlet served by a nuclear power plant)"
Why do some people get so hung up about minor things in life. The OP has done a fantastic job, not just building it, but both the delivery and mechanics.
I agree, it is a fantastic job!

The title is still misleading to me. Not terribly so – hence my not quite serious reply – but I was expecting something like https://timestation.pages.dev/, which actually transmits using included hardware only.

Very funny.

However, your analogy is not equivalent to, nor an example for, what I said. There's a difference between a phone's own USB/audiojack interfaces and a wall outlet.