[samtp]

You should find some better radio stations. There are tons of independent stations the play excellent non top 40 music and have been for years.

This is like saying the the movies that people like are manipulated but only focusing on what is played at big box theaters.

[tempaccount5050]

You're missing the point. Radio was consolidated into Clear Channel and took away what made radio radio. Local radio. Like what made Chicago jazz different from New York jazz etc. Not internet stations that may as well be podcasts. Regional culture.

[samtp]

You are missing the very simple point: there are tons of independent stations the play excellent non top 40 music and have been for years.

Just because you don't choose to tune into them doesn't mean they don't exist. And it also doesn't mean that those who do should lover their standards for what constitutes good radio.

[tempaccount5050]

On actual radio waves?

[evmaki]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_independent_radio_stat...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_radio_stations...

^ One of those might be in your area :)

[bluGill]

Might is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. There are several dozen radio stations in my area, and the only one on that list is a college station that just barely has the signal strength to reach me.

[malnourish]

Minnesota has a number of independent and college stations reachable throughout much of the (populated) areas of the state.

[adw]

kexp.org in Seattle and San Francisco for a start.

[samtp]

Yes.

[tempaccount5050]

What stations? All of the stations I can pick up in my area are top 40 country, rock, and pop, + npr.

[samtp]

Do you live near a city? Because pretty much every major city has a few. KEXP, WPFW, WUSC, KNHC are all local stations playing interesting non top 40 music that have been operating for decades in places that I have lived. Dublab & The Lot radio are also really good over the internet.

If there are non around you just pick a random place in the world here and listen: https://radio.garden

It's certainly 100x better than corporate and/or AI slop streams

[therealpygon]

Case in point. “Independent stations are totally better and I’m going to go argue on the internet when it’s something completely unrelated to small independent stations, unlike the mass media market stations the vast majority of people in the world ACTUALLY listen to.” Bravo, you are very unique and original, you special snowflake you.

You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations and play some rather filthy uncensored songs, and let me know exactly how your programming “didn’t get manipulated”. I’m sure you won’t get fined…probably…which makes it totally the reality that independent stations are totally independent without any sort of manipulation. Sheep, meet shepherd.

[samtp]

> You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations

I have for years.

> and play some rather filthy uncensored songs, and let me know exactly how your programming “didn’t get manipulated”.

What on earth are you talking about.

Honestly your reply comes across as extremely insecure and just weird.

[therealpygon]

Insecure people tend to think such things when called on their ignorance. Can’t be helped. What can be helped is trying to understand what is being said before attempting to discount it with an example that is just as manipulated in other ways, in order to maintain their ability to broadcast and not be fined. Beyond that, it’s pretty clear that the comment and the prior comment it supported was in reference to mass market radio, not tiny broadcasters with audiences reaching wholes of thousands. But sure.

[samtp]

Yeah and my entire point is that the quality standard that artificial intelligence developers should be aiming for is not soulless corporate mass market media. Because our world world is already swimming that nonsense. So there's absolutely nothing novel in finding a new way to create beige bs.

Once again, I have no idea what you're talking about when talking about fines or manipulation, I'm talking about quality. But it seems pretty damn clear at this point that you have never listened to any local independent radio station.

You should really try it out sometime. It's a lot better. And it'll save you from calling people snowflakes because you feel insecure about what type of radio stations they like.

[therealpygon]

I mean you can make up things all you like, it won’t magically make them true. In either case, you might try actually understanding what I said instead of only trying to inject your own nonsense into every conversation and then act like that was the discussion the whole time. You started by claiming to know what I listen to and passing judgement (the thing you then attempted to claim I did — funny that, my reasoning was more about stupidity and how you must have the only line on where music can be discovered) in your very first comment that was an entirely unrelated comment about AI and soulless mass market stations. But hey, I’m sure if you repeat it just one more time you can make you made up narrative become true:

[samtp]

Go for a walk and take a few deep breaths