[barrkel]

IDEs are dead in the age of agentic coding.

Trying to find the stable point of agentic coding is like trying to catch a falling knife. Will you still need to look at diffs? I for one no longer make any edits, as a policy - I either tell the agent to fix it, or tweak a skill or memory or doc so it doesn't make the same mistake a second time, or configure something adversarial. But does that continue indefinitely?

[ademup]

Agreed within the narrow confines of web dev (which is all that I do). I used to write 500-1000? LOC per day but now I've built several full fledged (250k+ arr) sites with more features than I've ever been able to implement in such a short time: all without editing a single line of code.

My guess is they are still very useful for more difficult code! But yeah, I can't imagine ever caring about "code" any more, and therefore cannot fathom the need for a full fledged IDE.

[panny]

>IDEs are dead in the age of agentic coding.

I'm glad that works for you, but you'll pry my free software from my cold dead hands. :)

[pjmlp]

Say what?

I rather have my agents talking to my IDEs.

[barrkel]

There are people who move into the future, and there are those who stick their heads in the sand. It was ever thus.

There's still room for something vaguely IDE shaped, but it's not going to be code oriented.

[pjmlp]

I have been coding since 1986, pleny of futures have come by.

Eventually you learn to figure out which gold diggers will get lucky when the caravan crosses town.

[barrkel]

I've been coding since 1990 myself. But I'm all in on AI.

I'm long past the need to code everything by hand; I've written editors, compilers, DOS TSR routines in assembler, disassemblers, debuggers, all sorts. I don't see any coding mountains remaining that I have a burning desire to climb. When I interact with an agent, I'm concerned about architectural nudges and fairly high-level details. And I anticipate climbing further up the abstraction stack over time.

Product management is increasingly vital; it's becoming very, very easy to implement the wrong thing, and you need to rip it out again. Editorial discipline is needed.

[pjmlp]

What I see where I am standing is that many don't code anything more, they get shown the door instead.

Because between SaaS, iPaas, Vercel, Nelify, Workato, Boomi, automatic translations, content generation, among many other tools, the team can be reduced to one third of the size it was like a decade ago, for the same content delivery.

Still, many of those tools have IDE integrations for the lucky ones that stay on board.