[trolleski]

Tax them to oblivion, the goal should be for them to sell! Let them go to Dubai if they don't like it.

[cybercatgurrl]

send them to the moon. ah wait, they’d actually love that for their egos looking down on humanity wouldn’t they?

[hackeraccount]

They'll go to Florida.

[sanex]

They already are that's why it's the second home.

[tastyface]

Good, let them slowly sink into the ocean.

[euroderf]

Pedal to the metal please. Saw it off and tow it out to sea and actively sink it.

[Mallory_Ringess]

Before long Mamdani will provide yet another proof of Thatcher's well-known dictum on socialism:

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money

[Ar-Curunir]

Given that a number of modern social and economic problems can be traced back to Thatcher and Reagan policies, anybody quoting Thatcher unironically should not be taken seriously.

[mangodrunk]

What specific “modern social and economic problems” can be attributed to them? The 90s was a period of economic growth after their policies proved to be effective.

[Mallory_Ringess]

Given that Socialism has shown time and time again to lead to economical and societal disaster, anyone supporting it unironically should not be taken seriously.

Show me the proof of a working Socialist system [1] and I might change my mind. Otherwise you're just deflecting through misplaced ad-hominems.

[1] No, the Scandinavian countries are not socialist countries - I live in one of then. Neither is the Netherlands, nor France nor any other European country.

[trolleski]

A lot of things in USSR did not work - but they did educate masses upon masses of people in reading, writing and stem.

Similarly, it's still unheard of in Europe to go bankrupt because of healthcare.

[Ar-Curunir]

Whatever Mamdani is implementing is also not USSR-style socialism. It’s at best similar to the system you live in Europe.

[rootusrootus]

Indeed, a cursory check suggests that these kinds of tax schemes are common in Europe.

[neogodless]

How close are we to all of the richest people being out of money?

[trolleski]

Also, in 2008 it was terrific to bail out private banks, right? Socialisation of problems seem to be allowed only for the super rich - interesting.

[Mallory_Ringess]

Nope, bailing out banks is a bad idea, why would I think otherwise? Two things can be bad at the same time: socialism is a dysfunctional ideology just like crony capitalism is a bad idea.

[trolleski]

Depends on the alternatives. The real alternative is technofeudalism and eventual coming revolutions where you won't get constructive reformists anymore.

[drsalt]

there is no "other" people, there's only we the people

[trolleski]

Taxes are not socialism.

[Mallory_Ringess]

...bub Mamdani is a socialist and he will run into these problems.

[rootusrootus]

Isn’t he a democratic socialist? I.e. European style social democracy? We don’t see many honest-to-god actual Socialists in the US.

[undeveloper]

democratic socialist isn't inherently interchangeable with social democracy. the DSA defines democratic socialism as explicitly at odds with capitalism, and aims to achieve socialism by going through and past social democracy (where european social democracy is plenty capitalist). Mamdani himself has actively disavowed capitalism.

> Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society.

> We believe there are many avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further than historic social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian visions of socialism in the dustbin of history.

> [...] We want to win “radical” reforms like single-payer Medicare for All, defunding the police/refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a transition to a freer, more just life.

1: https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/what-is-democratic-socialism...