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Which though, are not a sign of harmony- its more a sort of horrific balancing act at the abyss having clear winners and losers, the losers becoming cattle, organs or worse and usually they do not defect only because then some horror from the abyss eats the whole gametheory board and their abilities have atrophied -aka cooperation usually is a sort of slavery.

[kergonath]

> its more a sort of horrific balancing act at the abyss having clear winners and losers

No need to appeal to emotions this way. At the individual level there are only losers, and we all die. At the universe level, whatever happens, happens, and it’s up to us to find beauty in it.

[rixed]

and it's up to us if those ugly old seals murder those pups or not :)

[kergonath]

Well, yeah. Murder requires intent and, at least in human populations where cannibalism is not a problem, the separation with predation is clear. It’s less clear in this cases where the killing also involves eating (parts of) the victim. We don’t understand why they do it, therefore we cannot really condemn this as murder, therefore whether we should intervene and what we should do are not obvious.