[dist-epoch]

It will literally eat the world. Just like we crowded out wild animals in a few reserved areas, so will AI data centers crowd us out.

To quite Ilya Sutskever:

> I think it’s pretty likely the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

[zx0r23]

Or we could not do that...

Technology is meant to serve us not drive us into a hellscape lol

[siwatanejo]

What's wrong with that? There are now materials that allow you to have solar panels on a window (so they are not opaque anymore), and we can put data centers under our feet.

[zx0r23]

Did you read the original comment?

> AI data centers crowd us out.

> the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

[siwatanejo]

Yes, so our buildings' windows will be solar panels, what's wrong with that? And all our floors can be data centers, what's wrong with that?

[asdff]

> the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

[zx0r23]

You may want to lay off the LLM and practice your reading comprehension.

[siwatanejo]

Ok I guess my mind didn't think "entire surface of the earth" would really mean entire surface of the earth because that's just abhorrently stupid. I mean, in order to cover the entire surface of the earth with datacenters, we would first need to build stuff on the entire surface of the earth... Which would take... thousands of years? And I'm sure we would grow some trees on top of the data-centers along the way.

[nathan_compton]

In the current system technology is meant to serve the shareholders. That might end up serving us, if you believe the standard narrative. But maybe the shareholders will just carve out a few nature reserves for themselves and just wait for the rest of us to die off.

[zx0r23]

Time for a new system then!

[leptons]

"we"? Are we all now billionaires who decide what gets built and who gets laid off?

None of "us" gets to decide this. Only the very wealthy get to decide.

[zx0r23]

There's a way for us to have a say in the matter. It's happened before.

[leptons]

Okay, what way? What happened before?

Don't be vague.

[sjagauanbdvva]

You’re cop posting

[not_the_fda]

The french perfected it.

[wao0uuno]

Stop acting dumb. That person is obviously talking about a revolution.

[ern_ave]

> AI data centers crowd us out.

Here's a test to know if this is/will be true: look for a situation where the "needs" of AI (e.g. land, electricity, etc) conflict with the needs of people (e.g. land to live on, grow food on, electricity to light our homes).

Find a place where the needs of AI conflict with people, and observe who wins out.

Does the entity that owns the datacenter say, "oh sorry! I guess we're using too much electricity. No worries! We'll stop doing that" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, all the electricity belongs to us!"

Does the entity wanting to build a datacenter say, "oh sorry! We thought you'd be okay with us using this land. But if you're not that's okay, we wont build here" ...or does it say, "lol too bad, we own the government and they're seizing the land under eminent domain!"

(both of these scenarios have happened, btw)

[danny_codes]

I’ll put this in the hilarious category of “man outside his field of expertise”

[hansmayer]

> To quite Ilya Sutskever:

Who made Ilya Sutskever, or any other LLM-bonehead the Grand Prophet of Humanity? Why the fuck is his opinion on that relevant? Of course he will shill for data centers.

[dist-epoch]

when someone gives their opinion about AI, one typical retort is "are you an AI/LLM expert? we should let the experts talk"

[zx0r23]

The so-called experts are bought and paid for.

[andriy_koval]

The issue is that field moves so fast, that yesterday's experts are not so experts today.

[Viliam1234]

it is silently assumed that only the experts who agree with me are the true experts