[a13o]

It’s going to be a long road, but I think as LLMs and their offspring create more and more convincing arguments for silicon consciousness we will conclude that consciousness is about as real as humours, and we’ve all been p-zombies this whole time.

Maybe the literary creature shoe should have started on the other foot, and sent us in search of proof that we are or are not p-angels. That at least puts the burden of proof on the compatibilists where it belongs.

[tsss]

I don't think people will ever admit that they're not that special. We already know that animals are "conscious" and still treat them with disdain.

[sunir]

Dubious. We will just see logical vs physical space once again and move on with our lives. I think we are already mostly there as a society.

I don’t know why this is a block in philosophy let alone computer science. We experience it frequently and have a fundamental theorem about it.

Plenty of movies about it as well like the Matrix.

[nothinkjustai]

How can you even argue that we’re p-zombies? I know that I’m not. I assume others aren’t. Maybe you are?

[a13o]

From a non-dual perspective either nobody is a p-zombie or everybody is a p-zombie. I think the trajectory of LLMs will be that consciousness sensations are abundant and low value, and that will give all the non-dual territory over to the illusionists (who now have a tangible example to point to.) Emergence won't be disproven but it'll be about as interesting as a penny stock. Everyone else is going to go to ground as a dualist and argue for some entirely new unreachable aspect of human exceptionalism, but they'll have ceded qualia as they did for souls. If I had to guess, they'll focus on embodied cognition because building high-fidelity bodies still seems really hard.