[gilrain]

Until convictions of rape are justly meted out, you’ll have to stomach accusations taking justice’s place. Justice won’t just sleep.

Blame wealth for making the corruption of the courts too damn obvious. Now they’re not taken seriously.

[logicchains]

You could just as easily say blame wealth for the rape accusations; there's much more incentive to make fake rape accusations of rich men than of poor men.

[SamoyedFurFluff]

There really isn’t that much incentive to accuse a much wealthier man of rape. Famously, justice is rarely (if ever) metered out when the accused person is wealthy and influential. This guy (allegedly) violently raped a woman on his boat and he still gets a speaking gig, so.

If you’re so confident it’s a solid way to get ahead, please go ahead and try it yourself.

[cubefox]

> Famously, justice is rarely (if ever) metered out when the accused person is wealthy and influential. This guy (allegedly) violently raped a woman on his boat and he still gets a speaking gig, so.

"So"? The fact that someone is alleged of rape and doesn't lose their invited speech is hardly evidence of injustice. Allegations are not convictions nor proof of guilt.

It seems you are against the presumption of innocence. This presumption is itself a cornerstone of justice, not the opposite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

[SamoyedFurFluff]

Note that I was not speaking on the guilt or innocence of any specific person, just pointing out that when it comes to committing sexual violence the incentives to make accusations don’t appear to actually mete out as is claimed because the people who are accused rarely, if ever, have any actual negative consequences.

[cubefox]

> actually mete out as is claimed because the people who are accused rarely, if ever, have any actual negative consequences.

I think the opposite is true. Accusing someone of rape is often very bad for the accused person, even if the claim is never substantiated. False rape accusations are defamatory.

[SamoyedFurFluff]

Then we are at an impasse, because here is a guy who has been accused of rape actively doing a speaking gig, so…

[danaris]

The presumption of innocence is a legal principle.

This is not a legal forum. (In either the literal "this is an internet forum" sense, or the broader "place for discussion" sense.)

If you want to defend your techbro idols of charges far, far too many of their brethren are unquestionably guilty of, you're going to need a stronger argument than "you're not allowed to say you think he's guilty unless a court agrees with you!!"

[sheikhnbake]

There's also a higher chance that wealthy perpetrators of sexual violence are under-represented in data. There's no denying the relationship between the 'justice' system and the wealthy. Case in point: Judge Persky in the Brock Turner trial.