[thelastgallon]

When it comes to eyesores, there is nothing worse than garage door(s). The front of the house is mostly a massive ugly garage door. I don't see people ever not having a garage because its an eyesore and it is right in front of you, can't avoid looking at it. Roof stays out of sight unless you want to look at the roof.

Americans come up will all kinds of ridiculous reasons for not using clean energy.

1) Nuclear is dangerous, even though it has the safest profile of all energy: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/death-rates-from-energy-p...

2) Also, we are now bird lovers! Wind turbines killed 2 dozen birds (but cats kill billions of birds). Wind is also an eyesore. Ruins the views from $_.

3) Solar is an eyesore.

4) Electric cars don't work in the cold. (lets ignore Norway, a tropical island)

5) Range anxiety, because I might drive from Florida to Wyoming.

[theultdev]

Hey cool this is like those myspace surveys. Let me participate.

1. I support nuclear, really stupid not to use anything else. Blame politicians and the hippies.

2. Yeah wind imo is useless, and it's more than 2 dozen. Quite high, I don't think comparing kills to the top predator is a win. Also windmills are in raptor's paths, generally cats don't eat raptors. Noisy and ugly too.

3. Solar is nice, will use it as aux, but panels and batteries don't come close to a propane generator. Different use-cases.

4. I own a cybertruck and a trailboss, but it's Texas, can't really speak to cold weather ev experiences.

5. Owning an EV I know how they work, anxiety no issue, just hop free SCs and enjoy the ride.

Bonus: Garage doors can look stupid if it's the entire front of the house, like those mcmansions, but can be subtle with a long ranch house for example.

Solar panels always look awful on a roof.

[NicuCalcea]

Solar panels may not be everyone's cup of tea, but they're fine, you get used to them. I think windmills look cool as shit. But then I think cybertrucks are one of the ugliest things created by man, so I guess the point is we each have our own taste.

[theultdev]

A windmill by itself looks cool as shit. But the landscape gets ruined.

It's the equivalent of 100 radio towers crowding the area. Kind of takes you out of nature.

And I don't have a CT because it's pretty. I have it because it's functional and so fucking cool.

[NicuCalcea]

What energy installation improves the landscape? Do oil wells look nicer? If I had a choice of minimal impact on the beauty of the landscape, I'd choose solar and wind.

Great that you like your car, windmills and solar panels are also functional and fucking cool, so I don't know why you've bought up them being ugly. You're happy to drive an ugly car, but draw the line at looking at ugly roofs?

[theultdev]

Yes oil wells are nicer due to the fact they aren't 124ft+ tall.

A few select spots for nuclear would be ideal ofc.

No I don't buy things based on whether they are "ugly" or not.

Solar panels don't make any financial sense in my scenario, would take half of their lifespan to break even on the energy savings.

But yeah tastes are different. Personally I find the CT to be a cool look overall, albeit different, so I get why you are so fixated on them.

[NicuCalcea]

You're mixing up arguments. I don't know or care if solar makes financial sense for you, it does for many people. I was only addressing the fact that you seem inconsistent on whether something deserves to exist based on whether you think it looks nice. You have the right to drive a huge car that many people find unappealing, but windmills are useless because you don't like looking at them, despite them producing a third of the UK's energy?

I'm not fixated on the cybertruck, you bought it up unprompted. Though I do find it uglier than most cars, I think all of those enormous American "trucks" are an eyesore, and I hope to never see one in person.

[ChoGGi]

Before you get down voted to oblivion:

> 4. I own a cybertruck

Mind if I ask why?

[theultdev]

Yeah I love FSD and I need a lot of space.

Feels like a space ship and I love it more than my ICE truck.

And yeah, realized that would be downvoted. Fun to break the bubble here with other opinions though.

[bakies]

not a mill