[JumpCrisscross]

> What’s a non coding use case that’s enabled with LLMs that materially improves the average person’s life?

Coding adjacent, but my small town's small businesses have all dramatically improved their websites with LLMs. Folks who didn't have them before can now build them. Folks who had to rely on a web designer no longer have to.

[2dfdd]

Classic example of a bozo talking out his arse.

"Folks who didn't have them before can now build them. Folks who had to rely on a web designer no longer have to."

You ever heard of squarespace?

[amazingamazing]

Was it really that difficult to build a generic website with a template before? Using a LLM instead of a template seems like ridiculous overkill imho but thanks for the anecdote.

[JumpCrisscross]

> Was it really that difficult to build a generic website with a template before?

Yes. Code looks intimidating if you aren't used to it (and don't have an IDE). And there are lots of steps between having a file of code and having a hosted website.

[amazingamazing]

I don’t see how a llm solves this. It’s not like a llm hosts the website. Sites like squarespace and Wordpress let you modify your site without ever seeing code. They have graphical editors that you can stay in if you wish. I agree llms help, though if you use a product.

[lxgr]

I know how to set up a static HTML site in about 15 minutes. Building a website to host there usually takes me the better part of a weekend, and usually ends up looking absolutely terrible.

[mold_aid]

I think this really gets at it: people are so terrified of not knowing what to do, of not knowing whether their solution is "good," that they'll pay a monthly fee for a machine to tell them it's ok, ironically bypassing human judgment in the end. Drudgery or judgery, those are the two task contexts in which AI products* excel.

* It's lovely to have the opportunity to disagree with both Gruber and the "the whole thing smacks of politics" HN commentariat, pulled daily between "it's just a tool, like a hammer, which also kills people, stay with me here" and "AI puts an expert in your pocket; soon, the expert will live in your eyes"

[lxgr]

I’m not terrified of learning how to design a good website, I would simply not take up a design-heavy project, as I don’t enjoy it at all.

I do like certain other aspects of projects like that, which is why it’s great to have LLMs to collaborate with on it.

> they'll pay a monthly fee for a machine to tell them it's ok

Why would I outsource that decision to an LLM? I can look at the result myself and decide if I like it.