[nojs]

> $300/day token quota

Are companies using per-token billing? Why - is there some reason they can’t buy the $200/mo Claude plan for every employee?

[stavros]

The $200/mo Claude plan is not available for every employee. You can buy the $100/mo plan for up to 150 people, and then you have to switch to API billing.

[novaleaf]

Max 20x is for individuals only. (could probably have emps get it themselves, and reimburse)

[nl]

IF they do individual billing the business doesn't get token reporting

[Our_Benefactors]

> could probably have emps get it themselves, and reimburse

They can’t track token use this way. Also it’s a massive violation of the model providers TOS.

[pixel_popping]

Yes, token use can be tracked the same way, just have to MITM everything. The ToS is a non-issue as it's not a legal issue, unless you plan to do business with Anthropic, not really an issue as you can always go to API later-on, in which case, Anthropic can't supposedly "ban you" as they are saying they don't record prompts.

[Toutouxc]

Huh? I believe it’s completely fine for a company to pay for regular Claude subscriptions for employees, as long as they don’t share logins.

[pixel_popping]

Not fine as per the ToS.

[Toutouxc]

I can't find anything in the ToS that it would go against. I even asked Claude to check its own ToS and tell me if it's okay.

[yencabulator]

This is probably the fact that Anthropic's website serves different ToS based on your source IP. European ToS for the subscriptions forbids commercial use.

[pixel_popping]

Most startups do this (multiple accounts per employee).

[verdverm]

Those plans are going the way of the dinosaur, ai provider loses money on them. Most enterprise offerings are already there, Anthropic changed theirs to $20/seat plus token usage a couple weeks back

[seanmcdirmid]

I’m curious what FAANG is actually doing per-token billing? I’m guessing not google or amazon (since my wife and I aren’t aware of that).

[goosejuice]

Compliance

[LtWorf]

I'm pretty sure with AI there is nothing that complies to anything.

Staring with the fact that the whole industry is based on copyright infringement.

[goosejuice]

You're welcome to have opinions on that, but the answer to the person's question is objectively compliance. A corp can't get enterprise features like ZDR without switching to token based billing. That's why they aren't using subs.

This isn't some kind of new thing. There's always been an enterprise tax, like SSO.