[veidr]

OK. But without changing programming laguages, "fix some fundamental Node problems" vs "don't fix those problems, just run them faster, and maybe inline the most popular dependencies"...

Surely we can agree that one of those positions is relatively less ambitious?

[pjmlp]

Well it remains to be proven how they can make a business out of fixing nodejs fundamental problems.

[veidr]

I think the Anthropic acquisition means that Bun isn't in that business anymore. Bun is still fixing fundamental Node problems, but that's no longer the business.

The business value the Bun team needed to deliver (to make the acquisition pay out) might very well be this controversial, but nevertheless spectacular, 6-day Zig→Rust port.

But beyond that, now Bun is just tooling used internally at Anthropic, which also happens to be open-source.

[pjmlp]

I also meant Deno as well.

[veidr]

Oh. Well, then, yes I agree. It certainly does remain to be proven if anybody can make "Node, but better" a business.

Certainly the recent layoffs¹ of ~half-or-so of the Deno team doesn't bode well for it, as AFAIK Bun was the only other significant player trying (to make it a business).

¹: https://www.reddit.com/r/Deno/comments/1rwjaeb/whats_going_o...