[wiseowise]

> And was he 5x more productive in those 30d than a years worth of a dev making 200k/yr?

He was. When it comes to marketing. This is was most people don't understand. Peter is a great marketing guy who got hired because of a hype vision, not because he is an outstanding engineer. Think of it like OpenAI hiring MrBeast of the coding world.

[12arwlaz]

That is a good comparison. He has the charm and output quality of Mr Beast, but also his marketing prowess.

Now let's wait until the moderators clean up the wrongthink. He also has censors on his side.

[Iolaum]

I 'd say he is an outstanding engineer as well. He may favor output over security more than outstanding engineers at 2025 but in the 2026 world what he does is impressive. And with OpenAI's resources he has turned OpenClaw's security woes around. Latest versions are much more secure than 2 months ago.

[lxgr]

It’s much worse than that. Openclaw cosplays security, which is much more dangerous than just outright defining the security model as “this is new and risky, better sandbox this thing thoroughly at a different layer”.

It sucks at both security and usability as a result (all the vibe-designed security layers are constantly getting in my way).

[sdevonoes]

It’s not impressive. He’s a celebrity. Celebrities are not impressive

[liamwire]

What? Many celebrities are so specifically because they're impressive. Athletes and musicians being the two most obvious examples.

[wiseowise]

Not this one.

[simianwords]

_yawn_ I keep hearing "hype vision". What part of openclaw is hype? It literally works and the adoption has gotten better.

We really need better standards for disagreement.

[bigstrat2003]

Every part of it is hype, because it does nothing useful.

[shepherdjerred]

Plenty of people find it useful, but maybe it's not useful for you

[beepbooptheory]

What is a standard for a disagreement?