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by vessenes 40 days ago
If you review the openclaw release schedule and code output you will see that yes, he was. I’m not saying you’ll like what you see, but the openclaw release schedule is well faster than human ability to assess it.
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With a lot of these AI tools yea, they release very often. But half the features they add aren't even that useful. They just add shit because they can and they introduce bugs and change behaviour all the time.

Opencode has the same problems. They often do multiple releases of that app a day, yet within the span of a week or two I have had to update my config because some random change has altered the behaviour and my permissions broke. Or I've noticed the way the app renders is suddenly different.

Yet, my day to day usage has barely changed since the version I installed last year. It's like everything changes but nothing changes.

Even claude code has this happen, though perhaps to a lesser extent. I'm getting really tired of having new bugs pop up on me or subtle behavior change near daily that requires me to change things. The most annoying thing ever that was just introduced is a giant spew of context mode crap that Claude aggressively adds to every CLAUDE.md file, and I can't find a way to turn it off. I just have to `git checkout CLAUDE.md` repeatedely right now. If I have to add a bash alias to work around your annoying bug, that's pretty bad.
I read the OpenClaw subreddit for comedy. Every release just floods of posts about how everything is constantly broken and people stoping using it because of how broken it is.
Thats the single reason it is faster. Just pushing to prod whatever.

All projects can become fast if they drop guardrails.

This does not correlate with productivity increase

I just looked at and you weren't kidding. There are significant changes every few minutes 24/7.

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/commits/main/

GitHub insights over the last week.

Excluding merges, 216 authors have pushed 5864 commits to main and 6568 commits to all branches.

On main, 6965 files have changed and there have been 418,110 additions and 126,691 deletions.

In one month Peter makes 12k commits. So he is spending about $100 per commit depending on how much other stuff is going on.

That means he spends about

That's a metric for management to pump AI if I've ever seen one.
> the openclaw release schedule is well faster than human ability to assess it.

That doesn't sound very positive to me...

Oh I agree. They’ve said LTS is coming, that will be a relief. I wonder what “LTS” means in this context. Monthly? I’d settle for just not randomly dying on point version updates to config files TBF
It’s clearly also faster than its developers can handle.
It's fast for sure. But not 5 years of dev time compressed into 30 days fast.
I am not joking when I say this, if you pay me 1.3 million dollars today, I will get so much more done with just a single 200$ codex sub in 30 days than he has in 30 days, I can promise you that.

I just checked the code and feature outputs, and I can build all that in 15 days, for 1.3M USD. Fuck I would do it for 1M...

Scratch that, if it's 300K then sure I could do the same too, if you paid me that for 30 days of work. Lmao, the quality and the feature volume is just not worth anything worth paying so much money for.

I am not saying this because I don't like LLMs or I may think that AI coding can't work, but folks whatever openclaw has built for that much money is not worth nearly that much money...

I don't understand. Are you saying you're capable of building a rival to Openclaw in a few days, but you're just choosing not to? That's amazing.
everyone can build toys. Most people just have enough shame about publishing it.

The hard part is not building such toys, it's the convincing people with money to buy said toy. This is where he earned his applause.

Plenty of people can build an OpenClaw rival. Making it viral, however, is a different skill.
I assume there is already bunch of openclaw rivals, so why bother? Its not like they all become super popular and get bought by openai.
His restraint alone is commandable.