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by jwrallie 36 days ago
After buying several used goods in Japan, my impression is that junk simply means the seller does not want to hear complaints over old items, so they sell it at a lower price. I have bought many perfectly working items sold as such.

Of course buying old stuff requires some ability to do simple repairs. That’s part of the fun.

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Contrast that with my personal experience of items from the UK (specifically the UK, my experience is different elsewhere) where “untested” almost always means “I tested it and I know it’s broken but I want to try to get a better price anyway”. Especially when testing would involve plugging it in with the adapter it comes with and seeing that it doesn’t light up, for example.
I've had good luck from "vibe checking" the seller based on their other listings, it's usually obvious who's trying to make a profit vs who's just trying to clear out their unused personal stuff. The latter is often priced down too, for a quick sale. I'll only buy from a commercial seller if they explicitly describe the fault(s).
A whole lot of these bulk electronic sales seem to be "Here's all the stuff I couldn't fix". Either water damaged or the repair was botched. I can't imagine too many normal situations someone has 15 of the same game console they are selling in a bulk lot.
I used to do vacuums. As I understood it, it was house clearances etc.

I think it depends on how much it's been parted up. A big mess of everything is probably safer than a listing of 15 identical items.

One of the reasons I try and buy music equipment/instruments from Japan is that the assumption is that it will always work (It's inconsiderate to sell someone a literal brick of garbage), so yeah, I'd agree. Junk simply becomes a tolerance for DIY.
It's labeled junk because checking whether something works or not is time consuming. If it's being sold without a disclaimer it's expected that the item works or else it is subject to refunds.
Meanwhile in the U.S., 'tested, working' seems to mean "I plugged it in and the power light came on", unless there's evidence of more comprehensive testing.
I did think it was weird that my local Hard Off is about 50% 'junk'. It can't all be broken, I guessed.