[sharpshadow]

Where are the iPhone jailbreaks didn’t see anything since a long time.. what’s happening? Did I miss them or isn’t anything available? I mean props to Apple however they do it but is it a matter of time in regard to the current timeline or what is actually going on?

[wffurr]

Apple's security posture with lockdown mode, memory tagging, and secure allocators is significantly better than Android. You can read some about it here: https://security.apple.com/blog/memory-integrity-enforcement...

[microtonal]

I say this as a decades-long Apple user, but you fell for Apple's marketing. Yes, they do good in-depth security, but Google Pixel also supports memory tagging (MTE), secure allocators (Scudo), and has a mode similar to lockdown (Advanced Protection, which does similar mitigations and enables MTE).

Also, in contrast to iPhones, Android traditionally relies a lot more on safe languages like Java and Kotlin (and now Rust). Of course, iOS is improving there as well with Swift.

The issue is that all other Android vendors outside Google Pixel and to some extend Samsung are just terrible when it comes to device security.

Finally, it should be said that iOS was also compromised relatively quickly according to leaked Cellebrite presentations. The only system they could not compromise at the time was GrapheneOS, because they fully use Pixel hardware security features and do a lot of additional mitigations (including many that iOS doesn't use).

Also, any discussion of iOS should come with a fat disclaimer that by default iOS devices have a huge hole: most people use iCloud Backups (and are nudged towards it) without ADP, so their iCloud backups are not end-to-end encrypted and their chats, etc. can be requested by law enforcement. That you yourself use ADP does not really matter if the people you are communicating with don't. Also, Apple manages the key dictionary for iMessage, etc. so they could insert themselves. I would not be surprised if default non-E2E backups are a compromise in the extension of the NSA PRISM program that Apple already participated in before the Snowden leaks.

Of course, Google isn't any better, but just to say that Apple's security/privacy story is selective. Yes, they help protecting against some malicious groups and non-allied states, but they also make sure that US law enforcement (and probably some allied powers) can access most data.

[zobzu]

additionally: Google reports on their own jail breaks (who is project zero?!! lol). apple does not.

in fact apple fixed several high criticality bugs like these not that long ago - they just dont talk about it other than "you must fix now".

same problems, different comms, and the more people do this, the less transparent google will be.

[Gigachad]

Exploits that can survive reboots are almost impossible these days. And a jailbreak enabling exploit now requires a whole chain of exploits which are worth significant money and also get patched as soon as they become public.

So something like the old iphone jailbreaking scene is just impossible now.

[simulator5g]

Its still a thing but only on older devices. Eventually exploits get published long after they've been sold many times.

[marysol5]

Always annoyed me how "Jailbreaks" don't get the same scrutiny as they're software vulnerabilities as they do on other platforms...