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by AnthonBerg 27 days ago
"Baseline adult competence" was load-bearing there.

This is not an app for the general public.

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> This is not an app for the general public.

Can you point me to where it explicitly says that this app is not to be consumed by the general public? Or explain how that could even be enforced?

And my entire point was "baseline adult competence" means very little. Competent in what? Technology? Insulin administration? Both? If they're competent in technology but not insulin administration, than this is obviously a bad idea. If they're competent in insulin administration, but not technology, then why would they use it?

We're not even at the point where we can definitely say it's a good idea to surface this information to actual professionals let alone someone with no clinical experience.

It's a bad idea, period. I work with both clinicians and the general public and the idea that this can be responsibility used by either is a pipe dream that only people who work with neither can believe in.

This is as dangerous as people talking together on e.g. Facebook groups. I've seen people give flat out dangerous advice, and other people take it.

Nursed someone back to health and went through a T1D pregnancy and certainly had to work with the clinicians during; Desperately: There is use for this software, and no greater need to bury it or unmake it than it is to bury or unmake Facebook groups or other discussion venues.

In fact, software that actually reads literature and presents perspectives actually derived from plausibility from a scientific basis is in many cases a 100% increase of availability of such a perspective. Doctors – from experience – may not offer that. And forum lore rarely does.

Software that actually reaches into literature – which LLMs do – and presents its perspective with the required framing is arguably a strict improvement to the infohazardous environment of a given patient with a difficult condition like T1 diabetes.

And I ask for this discussion's participants' understanding of the sarcastically wry use of "basic adult competence". It was at once arrogant and caring, and put forward… in something as quasi-serious as a HN discussion. I think that's OK.

> his is as dangerous as people talking together on e.g. Facebook groups. I've seen people give flat out dangerous advice, and other people take it.

Not even remotely close. A large portion of people in the field still don't understand how LLM's work let alone your grandmother on Facebook. They're apples and oranges.

> There is use for this software, and no greater need to bury it or unmake it than it is to bury or unmake Facebook groups or other discussion venues.

Discussion forums are nothing like an LLM. People don't assume the other person on the forum is magic. Again, these are totally different things that have no correlation with each other. People have been in some form of forum for hundreds of thousands of years. They have no experienced a genie that has ingested the entirety of human knowledge. They're just flat out 2 different things.

And you're experience as a single person doesn't mean that experience is universal. I quite literally work with clinicians and patients every day. Clinicians aren't evne sure how to use these tools (with actual clinical knowledge), but yet we're ready to shoot them out to consumers? It's wild.

Of course there is a need to get better info, but that doesn't then follow that the route of that should be an unregulated, unlicensed LLM.