[NohatCoder]

Have you actually learned to write HTML and CSS without any kit/framework?

I generally don't find that the frameworks help nearly as much as people think they do, and if you haven't learned the basics they easily get in the way of doing so.

[cristyg0101]

for sure I do know the basics, but you dont spin up html css bloat, that later becomes a nightmare to maintain, I tend to want to make frontends with web components, and each frameworks provides their own

[NohatCoder]

If usage of the basics become "bloat" and "a nightmare to maintain", then you haven't learned how to use them.