[wahnfrieden]

Llama is not months behind GPT 5.5 Pro. I don't think Qwen or DeepSeek are either.

edit: I'm specifically referring to the "5.5 Pro" model, not regular 5.5 with Pro tier subscription. Claude has no model available that's comparable to 5.5 Pro either.

[vasachi]

I’ve used DeepSeek 4 Pro through Claude. It’s fine. Plans are similar to what sonnet/opus make. Same massage-the-plan -> massage-the-code loop. Maybe the code is a bit worse, but that’s the “months behind” thing.

The thing is, vast majority of code tasks aren’t a venture into the unknown. We as an industry for the most part build CRUD interfaces and dashboards. That can be achieved, with supervision, with frontier open-weights models quite well.

[fwipsy]

I think maybe you are both right. Perhaps AI coding assistants just don't need to be all that smart in many cases, so open weights models are fine. At the same time, frontier models are advancing in other domains, like mathematics, where raw intelligence is a more important factor.

[vasachi]

I can’t compare raw intelligence of these models, and I certainly can’t say anything about their advances in mathematics (without repeating press releases). But, erm, does it really matter? It’s not like some engineer somewhere will vibe-calculate how much weight a bridge can hold.

Well, yes, someone probably will do that. But I’m pretty sure there will be consequences for the engineer errors in this vibe-calculations.

[lostmsu]

There's no evidence there's any 5.5 Pro model distinct from 5.5 xhigh or whatever.

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models

[zozbot234]

https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/models/gpt-5.5-pro is a thing

[wahnfrieden]

lol

(tap view all on yr link or ask gpt to search for you next time)