[left-struck]

>Gas stations with cameras.

Everything has cameras these days. On my street almost every house has a cloud connected camera. Every major road has cameras, every store and business. Now I’m not suggesting we give up the fight for privacy but avoiding gas stations does nothing

[cbdevidal]

That’s specifically why I said ”Flock cameras”. Also mentioned our phones, they also report our location.

I suspect soon cameras in other cars will also be reporting our whereabouts.

Absolute privacy is almost impossible on public roads.

[asdff]

Difference is most of those things you mention overwrite their data in a few days or weeks. Even doorbell cameras, no one's stuff is being stored indefinitely.

[HDBaseT]

How do you know?

Most of these are cloud connected, how do you know they aren't storing license plate information, or face data, or audio data for extended periods of time in the cloud?

[Arch-TK]

Are you implying that we shouldn't be annoyed at Flock and forced GPS tracking in cars because my ignorant neighbours have a cloud connected doorbell?

Because I am instead annoyed at all three.

Not necessarily my neighbours, but the companies selling this spyware.

[HDBaseT]

That is not what I'm suggesting at all, what?

[asdff]

Nothing comes for free, so what's the profit angle to do this? Government is the obvious customer, but that would leave a papertrail too if such deals were worked out especially asking for perpetual storage until the heat death of the universe.

[HDBaseT]

The cost comes from your tax. Surveillance has an unlimited budget.

You can store an ungodly amount of data if you convert everything to metadata, e.g store a face picture for a short period of time, create a hash to match against other faces in the database. Same with license plates.

Using the metadata alone could effectively completely track your whereabouts.