[Funes-]

>If people attend university for certification instead of education I think the battle is already lost

It's been a lost battle for decades, then.

[john_strinlai]

indeed. a certification is required for ~every non-manual-labor job. even if not listed as a requirement, you're almost certainly competing against people with degrees.

so, the primary function of going to school is to get a job, not for self enrichment.

[Loughla]

Manual labor jobs require certifications in today's world as well.

It's a shit show everywhere.

[llbbdd]

All time.