[dangus]

It’s literally paramount to this discussion.

My whole entire point is that we can’t blame individual contributors for working at Meta and we can’t assume that they are upper upper middle class people with tons of other options.

Even for the upper upper middle class software engineers bringing back big paychecks I’m not going to blame them for literally getting years of their life and financial freedom back just because Mark Zuckerberg is an asshole.

Again you are ignoring the very important point to this discussion that other companies aren’t more moral than Meta. Find me a software company to work for that doesn’t collect the kind of user info Meta does. Hell, find me a software company that doesn’t use Meta platforms to advertise and track their users.

Don’t hate the player, hate the game, essentially. We need comprehensive privacy legislation, not a broken “free market” of non-union employees making false choices.

[darth_avocado]

Okay buddy, you’re not making very compelling arguments here. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. People will and should hate the players because they’re participating in a dirty game and benefiting from it. You’re free to continue doing it, but don’t expect others to respect it.

[dangus]

"okay buddy you're not making very compelling arguments here" isn't even a basic contribution to the discussion.

You’ve claimed to empathize with workers, but then you’ve lumped them into the same category as an aggregate, in a company with over 70,000 employees. There’s no company with 70,000 employees where every single employee is highly privileged and working there entirely by choice. It’s just not probabilistically possible to be true.

To you, the developers of a Batman game for VR doing the same societal harm as an engagement psychologist just because they happen to work for the same company.

To you, NFL players are responsible for the negative impacts of their employer (e.g., covering up CTE, sports gambling promotion, etc) despite having extremely short careers, highly restricting work requirements like sudden relocation, and nowhere else to work within the same profession for anywhere near the same salary. “Highly paid compared to the average person” isn’t the whole story; it’s quite obvious why professional sports are unionized. And by your logic, everyone down to the lowliest support staff in the organization is complicit.

Under your logic, all doctors in America should quit their job because they’re participating in a dirty game of overpriced healthcare and benefiting from it. To me, this doesn’t make a lot of sense.

[allarm]

> all doctors in America

Not even close. Doctors are doing work that benefits society, despite all the system’s flaws. Meta employees are destroying the world while collecting a paycheck. Don’t pretend you don’t see the difference. Working at Meta in 2026 is the same as working at a sarin gas factory.