[rayiner]

If you want rage bait, read the proceedings of honor code committees at your school. At least at Northwestern they were public record (sometimes with redaction of identities). The number of people who got off with obviously bullshit excuses was maddening even to read about.

[dlcarrier]

When I was in high school, mad dad was subscribed to the California Bar Journal, and the discipline section was one of my favorite reads. The outrageous rational lawyers had for failing their clients or downright stealing from them was hilarious, and the rate they won their appeals was appalling.

Someone wrote a book about how organizations like state bars protect their members from clients, not the clients from their members as is the stated goal: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674295421

[cucumber3732842]

>Someone wrote a book about how organizations like state bars protect their members from clients, not the clients from their members as is the stated goal: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674295421

Every licensing organization does this to the extent it can get away with because it needs to provide value to its members otherwise it's members wouldn't constantly beg the state to do the licensing organization's bidding.

I should read that book. Sounds good.

[porknubbins]

I once was accused and brought before the honor counsel for a really stupid innocent mistake.

Basically it was a history worksheet requiring written paragraph answers and I swapped around answers under the wrong questions so the teacher thought I cheated. It was a careless mistake I made because I had lost the original worksheet and was working off a loose leaf copy in the cafeteria at the last minute but it made it look like I copied someone else’s work.

I don’t known if the committee bought my story or was feeling lenient but I am very thankful for lax prosecution of these cases and think a lot of the value is in scaring people straight.

[smelendez]

That seems like it should be enough to suspect you but not enough to “convict.” Your explanation makes as much sense as cheating.

[porknubbins]

I guess so but was young and having to defend yourself before a committee that can expel you can be intimidating so there are many ways I could have flubbed the explanation and made myself suspicious. I do hope the standard is something like beyond a reasonable doubt.

[spuz]

What is this honour council I've heard in a few comments? I thought Princeton was unique in having and honour system as opposed to strict academic integrity rules.

[porknubbins]

Many US universities and some private schools had honor councils made up of students and faculty that would hear cheating cases

[chrisweekly]

reactions -> redactions

[rayiner]

Thanks, corrected.