[MetaWhirledPeas]

> They are winning because West is forbidden to use Chinese models for anything work-related.

Because the models hosted in China are not trusted. This is 100% a part of what makes up commercialization.

[lmm]

Is anyone outside the US trusting anything hosted in today's US? If so, why?

[coredev_]

I would say that both US and China are using the data we trust upon them for industrial espionage. So don't use their models if you are working defence or other sensitive areas

[aucisson_masque]

Deepseek is a fraction of the cost of western LLM and still just as good. I say it's also related.